From evstack-request@ontv.com Tue Dec 1 06:26:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from salsa.visus.com (slist@salsa.visus.com [192.76.184.34]) by synergy.caltech.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA09514 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 06:26:38 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost) by salsa.visus.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA29317; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:25:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:25:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199812011419.JAA04787@pepsi.visus.com> Subject: Re: architectural overview (fwd) To: evstack@ontv.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 09:19:28 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: jmcc@ontv.com From: Jason McMullan X-PGP-Key-ID: Length=768; ID=0x9A667E85; Fprint="F6 9E 40 3A 43 54 5A 09 23 8A 5A 77 7A E4 EE 41" X-PGP-Key-URL: Content-Type: text Resent-Message-ID: <"6dB4h2.0.387.Ji_Os"@salsa.visus.com> Resent-From: evstack@ontv.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/966 X-Loop: evstack@ontv.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: evstack-request@ontv.com This bounced from Andreas. 'becka@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de wrote with particular insight...' > From evstack-request@ontv.com Tue Dec 1 05:33:03 1998 > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 05:32:29 -0500 > X-From_: becka@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de Tue Dec 1 05:32:28 1998 > From: becka@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de > Message-Id: <199812011030.LAA22200@zeus.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> > Subject: Re: architectural overview > To: evstack@ontv.com > Old-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:30:40 +0100 (MET) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list > X-Envelope-To: evstack > > Hi ! > > > in your design is there an equivalent to /dev/tty for events and the > > mouse? > > Well - most often, when you want to use a mouse, you also want to use > graphics. KGI (accessed via /dev/graphic) used to be an event relay for > that purpose. > > For terminal applications we had chosen xterm as a default on purpose, > as it has mouse reporting. > > > if an application opens /dev/tty, it will be connected to the "right" tty. > > so is there something similar to that for events, like a /dev/event? is > > there a similar way to open the "right" mouse device without user-level > > code having to check to see what virtual terminal it's attached to? > > Well - for the few cases, where you want event-input without using the > graphics devices (which can also do text mode, of course), I'd suggest > to add a line-discipline or something similar to the tty code, that > switches between reporting traditionally as characters and just > sending events. > > CU, Andy > > -- > Andreas Beck | Email : > -- Jason McMullan - Linux - GGI - http://pepsi.visus.com/~jmcc I can't wait until the point where free Linux CD's or other paraphenalia is included in cereal boxes. That truly will be the cherry ontop of our madness! -- Mike A. Harris on linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu From evstack-request@ontv.com Tue Dec 1 23:10:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from salsa.visus.com (slist@salsa.visus.com [192.76.184.34]) by synergy.caltech.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA10131 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:10:20 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost) by salsa.visus.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA10053; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:09:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:09:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 00:06:22 -0700 (MST) From: Brad Midgley To: Jason McMullan cc: evstack@ontv.com Subject: Re: architectural overview (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199812011419.JAA04787@pepsi.visus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"0pKY_3.0.AS2.XSEPs"@salsa.visus.com> Resent-From: evstack@ontv.com Reply-To: evstack@ontv.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/967 X-Loop: evstack@ontv.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: evstack-request@ontv.com jason, i decided to sketch out my understanding of the current ggi-cons layout. can you have a quick look at it? http://pht.com/~brad/ggi-console/ (two sides mysteriously truncated and no arrowhead symbols in the tool i used) i tried to succinctly convey the one-to-many relationships between displays and vt's and between the computer and its displays. brad From evstack-request@ontv.com Wed Dec 2 06:21:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from salsa.visus.com (slist@salsa.visus.com [192.76.184.34]) by synergy.caltech.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA18524 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 06:21:50 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost) by salsa.visus.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA16719; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:20:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:20:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199812021414.JAA18106@pepsi.visus.com> Subject: Re: architectural overview (fwd) To: brad@pht.com (Brad Midgley) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:14:18 -0500 (EST) Cc: evstack@ontv.com Reply-To: jmcc@ontv.com In-Reply-To: from "Brad Midgley" at Dec 2, 98 00:06:22 am From: Jason McMullan X-PGP-Key-ID: Length=768; ID=0x9A667E85; Fprint="F6 9E 40 3A 43 54 5A 09 23 8A 5A 77 7A E4 EE 41" X-PGP-Key-URL: Content-Type: text Resent-Message-ID: <"TzgPy2.0.924.WjKPs"@salsa.visus.com> Resent-From: evstack@ontv.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/968 X-Loop: evstack@ontv.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: evstack-request@ontv.com 'Brad Midgley wrote with particular insight...' > i decided to sketch out my understanding of the current ggi-cons layout. > can you have a quick look at it? http://pht.com/~brad/ggi-console/ > > (two sides mysteriously truncated and no arrowhead symbols in the tool i > used) > > i tried to succinctly convey the one-to-many relationships between > displays and vt's and between the computer and its displays. Perfect. I'll place that link on my EvStack page. The only difference is that each keyboard gets its own instance of the global keymap. I should have my latest rev (that boots on the PowerMac! Whee!) out by Saturday. -- Jason McMullan - Linux - GGI - http://pepsi.visus.com/~jmcc I can't wait until the point where free Linux CD's or other paraphenalia is included in cereal boxes. That truly will be the cherry ontop of our madness! -- Mike A. 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I'll place that link on my EvStack page. The only difference > is that each keyboard gets its own instance of the global keymap. From evstack-request@ontv.com Sat Dec 12 06:59:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from salsa.visus.com (slist@salsa.visus.com [192.76.184.34]) by synergy.caltech.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA13119 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 06:59:37 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost) by salsa.visus.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA22632; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 09:56:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 09:56:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199812121453.JAA31768@pepsi.visus.com> Subject: Interim Release To: evstack@ontv.com Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 09:53:29 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: jmcc@ontv.com From: Jason McMullan X-PGP-Key-ID: Length=768; ID=0x9A667E85; Fprint="F6 9E 40 3A 43 54 5A 09 23 8A 5A 77 7A E4 EE 41" X-PGP-Key-URL: Content-Type: text Resent-Message-ID: <"iygI73.0.zU5.VEeSs"@salsa.visus.com> Resent-From: evstack@ontv.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/971 X-Loop: evstack@ontv.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: evstack-request@ontv.com Dec 12, 1998: (see http://pepsi.visus.com/~jmcc/EvStack for CVS info) * Mac ADB input driver (input keymap still broken) * Boots on powermac, brings up bash, no (working) input as of yet. * ggi_console/Linux/test - runs the `./console_test' script as a process that uses the ggi_console system! Still to do: - Fix Mac keymapper - Make `keymap' locally instanceable. - Fix `key doubling' bug. - Remove evInKey* handling for ASCII from xterm/dumbterm And after that: - Christmas Release - DEC Alpha support (I got my multia up!) - Sparc support (I have a loaner) - fbcon scroller -- Jason McMullan - Linux - GGI - http://pepsi.visus.com/~jmcc I can't wait until the point where free Linux CD's or other paraphenalia is included in cereal boxes. That truly will be the cherry ontop of our madness! -- Mike A. Harris on linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu From ontv.com!evstack Sat Dec 12 11:06:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sephiroth (really [127.0.0.1]) by sephiroth via in.smtpd with esmtp (ident steve using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ipoline.com by sephiroth (fetchmail-4.3.9 POP3) for (single-drop); Sat, 12 Dec 1998 11:05:56 EST Received: from salsa.visus.com (549@salsa.visus.com [192.76.184.34]) by ipo2.ipoline.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA38176 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 01:04:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by salsa.visus.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA26138; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 01:05:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 01:05:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:03:38 -0700 (MST) From: Brad Midgley To: Jason McMullan cc: evstack@ontv.com Subject: Re: architectural overview (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199812021414.JAA18106@pepsi.visus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"vrRMT3.0.wN6.0OBSs"@salsa.visus.com> Resent-From: evstack@ontv.com Reply-To: evstack@ontv.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/970 X-Loop: evstack@ontv.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: evstack-request@ontv.com X-UIDL: b42fd071ecdcdff97d8e8980503631d8 Status: O X-Status: i put a slightly updated diagram online. at the moment i feel like this is how i can contribute. i think i also understand better what it means to write an input driver. looking forward to the new release. brad > > can you have a quick look at it? http://pht.com/~brad/ggi-console/ > > Perfect. I'll place that link on my EvStack page. The only difference > is that each keyboard gets its own instance of the global keymap. From ontv.com!evstack Mon Dec 28 14:05:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sephiroth (really [127.0.0.1]) by sephiroth via in.smtpd with esmtp (ident steve using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.ipoline.com by sephiroth (fetchmail-4.3.9 POP3) for (single-drop); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:05:06 EST Received: from salsa.visus.com (slist@salsa.visus.com [192.76.184.34]) by ipo2.ipoline.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16970 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:42:51 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by salsa.visus.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA06148; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:43:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:43:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199812281638.LAA23462@pepsi.visus.com> Subject: Re: GGI Console status To: bloater@ps.cus.umist.ac.uk (Tristan Wibberley) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:38:15 -0500 (EST) Cc: evstack@ontv.com Reply-To: jmcc@ontv.com In-Reply-To: from "Tristan Wibberley" at Dec 28, 98 04:21:51 pm From: Jason McMullan X-PGP-Key-ID: Length=768; ID=0x9A667E85; Fprint="F6 9E 40 3A 43 54 5A 09 23 8A 5A 77 7A E4 EE 41" X-PGP-Key-URL: Content-Type: text Resent-Message-ID: <"-3zvD1.0.QV1.6KxXs"@salsa.visus.com> Resent-From: evstack@ontv.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/972 X-Loop: evstack@ontv.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: evstack-request@ontv.com X-UIDL: 64cb33d7d8d9564d221435417cf2c129 Status: O X-Status: 'Tristan Wibberley wrote with particular insight...' > > Hi, > > It's been ages since there's been a status update on your GGI console > page. What is the status? What platforms/kernel version does it run on? > What major obstacles are there currently? With the Christmas season, I haven't had much time to work on it, but it's booting on the PowerPC and I've almost hammered out the bugs in the PPC keyboard map. I should have something by this weekend for release. Sorry for the delay. -- Jason McMullan - Linux - GGI - http://pepsi.visus.com/~jmcc I can't wait until the point where free Linux CD's or other paraphenalia is included in cereal boxes. That truly will be the cherry ontop of our madness! -- Mike A. Harris on linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu